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I was in southern Sweden

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with two other people

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and we were walking in the countryside

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in The Meadows very much like England

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beautiful day like this exactly

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and

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um

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we had planned to take a picnic this was

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22 more than 22 years ago

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and

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we sat down we found a beautiful spot

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and we sat down and we started to talk

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we were very young

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and talking about the world and

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situations like Biafra and the hunger

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and Starving Children and we talked

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about Vietnam and I was very upset

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because as an American I was ashamed

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that my country was causing such

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Devastation this was about 1969 1969 and

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April first week of April I don't know

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the exact date I didn't write it down

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and

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we I started to cry because of this

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situation and what we had seen on the

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television the night before

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and at that very moment that I started

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to cry

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for some reason

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Harry did not have the experience but

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melker and I looked up

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something made us look up I don't know

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what and there was this object very

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close above us

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that had three things coming down out of

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it it was metallic no windows

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no bodies

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and soundless

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just there

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and it didn't even seem to hover it

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seemed to just be completely still

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but it was only two seconds

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and then these things went back up

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inside of it it was oval shaped and it

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just shot straight out away from the

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Earth

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and I looking straight up kept trying to

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see it and I said to melker did you see

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that and he said yes

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and we were so shocked because we've

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never had anything like this before and

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I'd never had any interest in anything

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of this nature either

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and I said that couldn't have been an

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airplane because an airplane has to go

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around the earth and this thing went

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straight away from the Earth

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and then we turned our heads and we

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looked and noticed that the word Sky did

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not exist

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there was no color blue anymore

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it was just in Infinite Space colorless

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Infinite Space

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everything seemed to be enlarged

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everything

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um

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the Earth

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the space

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the consciousness

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and then we saw the Moon

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in its natural size three-dimensional

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right in front of us in the space

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and it was

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[Music]

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it's just impossible to describe except

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that a few months later

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they landed on the moon and they came

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with all photographs over the moon and

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that was the only way I was able to

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describe what I saw I never could have

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done it that was in July of that year

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and we saw the craters and the depth of

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the craters and the size we saw the

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color of the Moon

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which I found not to be gray but to be

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like

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sand a darker shade of sand

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and it seemed to be revolving in space

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and

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which I did

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and that was the most spectacular

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feeling to stand up and walk on the

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earth and really feel myself walking on

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the Earth

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you know to feel this

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I felt that I was upside down

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I felt that I was in every direction

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and I seemed to experience gravity

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in a way I Can't Describe either

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but it was just I knew what gravity was

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and I felt it holding me that that was

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the only thing that kept my feet on the

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Earth

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and all of these things are obvious to

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anyone but people don't normally go

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around and experience it on such so it's

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such an enormous way

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and I stood up I started walking I I

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felt like a puppet on strings

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and then

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there was a sound that came

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that permeated the whole Space

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and it was very similar to if you took a

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stethoscope and you put it into a

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recording studio and you magnified it

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ten thousand times it sounded like that

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like a heartbeat you know it's um it had

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all that Echo sound and it came in boom

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and then there was a silence a gap and

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then it came again and I said like I

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knew exactly what was happening oh my

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God it's the rhythm of the universe

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pulsating

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and then

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I went back and I sat down

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and

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put my arms around my knees like this

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and was looking out and then I noticed

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that the Earth

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seemed to get very large

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so you the only way I can describe this

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is to say that it was two different

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things at the same time

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and that's what's so hard to comprehend

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with this mind now how one can do that

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but I was sitting here talking to my

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friend the same way I'm talking to you

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with the same physical attributes

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but at the same time I was literally

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somehow seeing the Earth from a distance

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um it was like being an aunt

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um a bowling ball

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but at the same time being a giant on

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the top of a pinhead okay

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what is it that you think happened to

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I I feel

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was that it was a an object

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that